Comments on: REPLY FROM DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH ON BAPTISMAL FORMULAE http://uvcarmel.org/2008/02/29/reply-from-doctrine-of-the-faith-on-baptismal-formulae/ Summorum Pontificum Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:35:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: PRAXIS OBNOXIA http://uvcarmel.org/2008/02/29/reply-from-doctrine-of-the-faith-on-baptismal-formulae/#comment-896 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:47:42 +0000 http://uvcarmel.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-896 Ya invalid baptism is very very bad. Poor people are using the new rites unto damnation.

I hope there will be a revision over V2.

I think you should read about the pain in Brisbane is only one case of this defrock priest Kennedy. What a shame.

]]> By: Rick http://uvcarmel.org/2008/02/29/reply-from-doctrine-of-the-faith-on-baptismal-formulae/#comment-82 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:07:59 +0000 http://uvcarmel.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-82 This is very interesting. For some time invalid penitential rites were preformed in our parish. The Vatican did come out and say that absolution had not been granted for those who participated – at least for those who had serious sins that were not confessed.

I don’t know how many left because of it, or how many suffered in the next life. “Pre-Vatican” parishioners who were upset about it were brushed off and shunned. The whole thing was just dropped. One priest I talked to – who doesn’t believe he has the right to change the formulas for the Sacraments – said that the graces in the treasury of the Church make up for these kind of mistakes.

Now we find that the … excuse me, “Church of the True Faith” has been performing invalid Baptisms. So… many good members in full communion with the Church that our Lord founded will not be participating in the fullness of the priesthood of Christ in the next life (St. Thomas), but, many Protestants will, many Orthodox will, many Pius X will – because they have valid Sacramental Baptisms.

Traditional Catholic Bishops have said that members of their parishes who have gone to Pius X Masses need to go to confession before receiving Communion in their diocese. In one sense I understand this. On the other hand, is it a bit much to ask someone to go to Confession because they want their children to receive valid sacraments?

From what I understand it is considered poor Pastoral policy to admit that these serious mistakes were made. That it is best to just drop it. The faithful who have left will come back – if they are truly faithful. We need to be careful not to offend those who drove the faithful off because they are the “smoldering wicks”.

When I can make the long drive I attend an Eastern Rite parish. Besides their beautiful Liturgy, they seem to admit their mistakes much better than the Latin Rite. One Sunday every year the Pastor comes out and makes a required – but personal, heartfelt, and touching apology to the parishioners for his shortcomings.

No wonder JPII continually asked us to look to our Eastern Brethren!

Through the prayers of the Mother of God, Oh Savior save us!

Rick

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